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A physical concept in the press: the case of the jet stream
Gonzalo Miguez-Macho
José A. Cortes-Vazquez
Antonio Vaamonde
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RC1: 'Comment on gc-2021-34', Louise Arnal, 25 Feb 2022
In this manuscript entitled “A physical concept in the press: the case of the Jet Stream”, Fonseca et al. provide a well-structured overview of the role of education to empower informed and responsible decisions that may affect climate. They argue that the media can play a vital role in educating the public about climate change processes, towards climate literacy. They showcase the need for better education using survey results from university students. Finally, they illustrate how better education can be achieved using an existing climate science dissemination section, Weather Stories, from a Galician newspaper. The examples chosen to illustrate their points are well-chosen and captivating. However, the manuscript still lacks a hypothesis testing methodology, and a more thorough acknowledgement of the wider literature is required in places. Please find a series of comments below which will hopefully help improve this manuscript for publication in Geoscience Communication.
Main comments:
- The manuscript needs a hypothesis testing methodology. Currently, you introduce a hypothesis on page 6 only. I think this should be introduced right after the context has been laid out. Additionally, I think the elements you present that are part of your hypothesis (i.e., daily section, scientific dissemination, historic perspective, teleconnections, and specialization) should be introduced within the context of your paper, based on the wider literature. Here, you explain each element through the Weather Stories experience, which should be part of the results. Introducing these elements at the start of your manuscript would help the readers understand what they are and why they are important. In your results, you can then refer to these elements and show how Weather Stories fulfills those points.
- It is also important that you explicitly mention how the examples you use in Section 7 tackle the elements you introduce in Section 6. E.g., “a volcanic cloud had covered the whole planet” (P9 L280-281) illustrates the importance of teleconnections.
- The methodology section requires more information, for example regarding the dissemination method used for the survey, the exact questions asked as part of the survey, and the method used to “analyse the content of a model” (P5 L 141) to improve climate literacy. I suggest adding a copy of the survey to your manuscript for more clarity and transparency.
- In the results Section 5 you refer to information from the wider literature (e.g., P5 L152-154, see other instances throughout Section 5). These references to outside results should be included instead at the start of the manuscript when you introduce these points, or in a discussion section, to keep the results section for your own study results only.
- Section 7 is presented as a mix of narratives (7.1 to 7.3) or contextualized narratives (i.e., why was a certain narrative selected for the readers, e.g., P10 L301-302). For more conciseness, I suggest using the same style throughout. I think contextualized narratives is more appropriate for this manuscript as it provides a more critical overview of the Weather Stories articles.
- It would be great if you could please provide a more critical outlook of future steps for the community to tackle the ongoing climate illiteracy challenge. Please provide a reflection at the end of the manuscript and perhaps a couple of suggested steps going forward. Examples of questions you could tackle are: What would you like to see happen in the world/Spain to improve climate literacy moving forward? Should other countries/regions of Spain adopt a similar concept to the one you present? What are some of the challenges with using media as a dissemination format? Will you evaluate the impact of this dissemination to see if it works?
- The points you raise throughout the manuscript are excellent, but they require more references to the literature in some parts. I.e., P1 L22-23 (“the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation”, please cite a few examples), P2 L34-43 (this paragraph requires more references to the literature regarding lack of climate education in the general public, people remaining unaware of how the greenhouse effect works, and the media being the main source of public opinion information), P2 L57-58 (“widely debated within the academic literature”, please provide examples of articles), P8 L245-255 (the Jet Stream concept requires citations to the relevant literature), and P14 L361-362 (“as shown by different surveys all around the world”, please refer the reader to a few examples).
Specific comments:
- P1 L13: Suggest changing “knowledge” to “climate literacy” to clarify that you are not referring to scientific knowledge but to that of the wider public. (Same on P4 L104).
- P1 L16-17: Their characteristics allow taking on which challenge? That of science communication? Please specify in the manuscript.
- Introduction: You only introduce why it is important for the public to understand climate change in Section 2. I think this needs a line or two in the Introduction as well as it is an important point that frames the rest of your paper.
- P1 L22: Suggest changing “harsher” to “more catastrophic”.
- P1 L25: What are the limits established by the Paris Agreement? Please specify.
- P1 L25: Please explain very briefly what the “Hothouse Earth” hypothesis is in the manuscript.
- P2 L32-33: This would be a good point to briefly introduce what the Jet Stream is.
- P2 L46-47: Suggest changing “the generation” to “one of the generations”.
- P3 L66: This hypothesis is not tested in your manuscript, please change the word, or provide a test for this hypothesis in your manuscript. I would suggest the latter as you already have one main hypothesis explored.
- P3 L68-69: Do you have any references for this that you could add in the manuscript? I find this point surprising as academia is a center of learning.
- P3 L73-74: “the effect vanishes soon” is an excellent point. However, you are not arguing that this is not the case for the media. Please address this point in the manuscript.
- P3 L80: I find the idea of “social experience” fascinating, but I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. Since it is an important point, please provide a clear explanation of what this is in the manuscript.
- P3 L80-82: by “everyday testing within the meteorological field” do you mean that this experience is backed up by constant progress within the field of meteorology. Please clarify/rephrase.
- P4 L106-107: Is there anything you can cite in the manuscript to back up the point that the greenhouse effect is not well understood by the public? I find it surprising since it is a concept taught at school.
- P4 L116-117: Please explain briefly in the manuscript the 3 crisis points faced by journalism.
- P4 L113-127: This paragraph is a repetition of many elements introduced in Section 2. I suggest reviewing for more conciseness.
- P4 L120: Does the percentage of fake news in social media and Whatsapp not suggest a change in information source as well?
- P5 L135-137: For readers unfamiliar with the history of climate in Galicia, it would be helpful to give an overview of the climate change background in this region of Spain. E.g., sea level rise, droughts, floods… This context is very important to frame the survey results you mention later.
- P5 L156: You report ‘quite a lot’ and ‘a lot’ as most selected answers by survey participants. However, readers do not know what options were provided to the participants and cannot judge the impact of this answer. More instances throughout Section 5. Please see my main comment about the methodology section above. As an example of why this matters, when mentioning the various sources of information reported by survey participants about climate change, were options such as “a friend”, “family” and “social media” options participants could also choose from?
- P6 L169: “more than 40% believe”, is this number from the survey?
- P6 L184: I would argue that the daily provision of information additionally constitutes a reliability, important to build public trust.
- P7 L201: Where did storm Filomena occur?
- P7 L207: By “own personality” do you mean that it is a unique medium? Please rephrase.
- P7 L209: The historic perspective additionally frames broader concepts in a locally relevant context for the public.
- P7 L217: “it can also be linked to a war like Syria’s”, this requires more explaining in the manuscript.
- P8 L235-243: To understand this paragraph readers require more information about Weather Stories, such as who contributes to it, how often issues are published, what the range of topics is. This could be introduced in more details in the introduction section.
- P8 L260: Suggest changing “air navigation” to “air circulation”.
- P8 L262: The various viewpoints mentioned here is important but is not introduced earlier. Please introduce this point earlier in the manuscript. Should this also be an additional model element introduced in Section 6?
- P9: Suggest moving 7.2 and 7.3 as sub-sections of 7.1 as they fit within the theme of “a current with plenty of history”.
- Section 7: These narratives are very interesting but are presented somewhat arbitrarily. Please explicitly mention how they link back to the model elements introduced in Section 6 (see main comment section above). You could also report the dissemination/publication dates for each story, with links to these publications so the readers can read them if they are interested.
- P14 L365: Suggest changing “often invisible” to “often invisible to the untrained eye” to highlight that it is invisible if the person is not aware of what to look for.
- P14 L381: “Belenguer, 2003” should be introduced earlier on in the manuscript if referred to in the conclusions.
Technical corrections:
- P1 L13: “To advance the learning” (without “in”).
- P2 L63: The quote is not closed.
- P7 L215: “to assimilate” (without “a”).
- P12 L345: “on the planet”.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/gc-2021-34-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Xavier Fonseca, 06 Apr 2022
Responses to reviewer 1 (Louise Arnal)
Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. We have carefully addressed all of your comments and believe they will help improve the article significantly. Below, please find a point-by-point response to each of your comments and concerns.
The manuscript needs a hypothesis testing methodology. Currently, you introduce a hypothesis only on page 6. I think it should be introduced right after stating the context. In addition, I think the elements you present that are part of your hypothesis (i.e., daily section, scientific dissemination, historical perspective, teleconnections, and specialization) should be introduced within the context of your paper, based on the broader literature. Here, you explain each element through the Weather Storues experience, which should be part of the results. Introducing these elements at the beginning of your manuscript would help readers understand what they are and why they are important. In your results, you can refer to these elements and show how Weather Stories fulfills those points.
We agree with the reviewer in that a statement introducing the hypothesis at the beginning of the article is missing. We have now corrected this by mentioning the hypothesis both in the abstract and in the introduction of the article to highlight the central aspect of this research, which is to discuss a model of scientific communication with specific characteristics.
We have now modified the abstract by adding the elements of the paper’s hypothesis:
“These specific formats of science communication should be included in the media because they are the main source for information on climate change and because their characteristics (daily section, scientific dissemination, historic perspective and specialization) allow taking on the challenge.”.
In the introduction we have added:
“This communication format has specific characteristics that make it possible to face the challenge of communicating the science of climate change to a non-specialist audience. These characteristics are daily section, scientific dissemination, historic perspective and specialization. Our hypothesis is that it can be used as a model to bridge the existing gap between an increasing awareness of climate issues and the apparently stagnant knowledge on these natural phenomena. We illustrate our analysis with a particular example: how this communication format has brought up the dissemination of the Jet Stream”.
It is also important that you explicitly mention how the examples you use in Section 7 tackle the elements you introduce in Section 6. E.g., "a volcanic cloud had covered the whole planet" (P9 L280-281) illustrates the importance of teleconnections.
As the reviewer suggests, we have included the example about how the volcanic cloud that covered the sky after the explosion of the Krakatoa volcano illustrates the importance of teleconnections in the climate system. Also in the section explaining the influence of the jet stream on air navigation. Regarding sections 7.3 and 7.4 we believe that in the text itself it is clear that Weather Stories addresses the influence of the jet stream through scientific dissemination, teleconnections, and specialization.
“The powerful 1883 eruption, which released energy equivalent to a million atomic bombs, raised particles to the upper atmosphere and, in less than two months, a volcanic cloud had covered the whole planet. This kind of climatic events show the tight interrelations within the global climate system and the role of teleconnections. London’s Royal Society received numerous testimonies from people all over the world describing the effects of this phenomenon at distant locations from the eruption site (Fonseca, 2018)”
The methodology section requires more information, for example regarding the dissemination method used for the survey, the exact questions asked as part of the survey, and the method used to "analyze the content of a model" (P5 L 141) to improve climate literacy. I suggest adding a copy of the survey to your manuscript for more clarity and transparency.
As per the reviewer’s suggestion, we have added to the paper a copy of the survey including all the questions that were asked to the target population, in this case students from the three universities in Galicia.
Regarding the method for analyzing the content of Weather Stories, no survey has been carried out for this purpose. The article proposes a science communication model and illustrates it with a practical example. We believe that the analysis through experimentation of the impact that this type of communication format has on the population is beyond the scope of the present article and should be the subject of future research.
In the results Section 5 you refer to information from the wider literature (e.g., P5 L152-154, see other instances throughout Section 5). These references to outside results should be included instead at the start of the manuscript when you introduce these points, or in a discussion section, to keep the results section for your own study results only.
As you propose, we have added a reference in the first part of the article to a study on climate literacy carried out outside Spain by Alliance Research. Their data is very much in line with what our survey shows, that there is very low literacy among the population in Europe and the United States. The data reinforces the need to create formats such as Weather Stories.
“Despite the climate urgency and the exponential increase of scientific evidence about its origin, behaviour and impact, we can still observe a severe lack of climate education in the public (Allianz Research, 2021)”
Section 7 is presented as a mix of narratives (7.1 to 7.3) or contextualized narratives (i.e., why was a certain narrative selected for the readers, e.g., P10 L301-302). For more conciseness, I suggest using the same style throughout. I think contextualized narratives is more appropriate for this manuscript as it provides a more critical overview of the Weather Stories articles.
Following the reviewer’s suggestion we have now unified items 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3 into one subsection since they talk about historical aspects of the discovery of the current.
It would be great if you could give us a more critical view of the future steps the community should take to address the current challenge of climate illiteracy. Please offer a reflection at the end of the manuscript and perhaps a couple of suggested future steps. Some examples of questions you might address are What would you like to see happen in the world/Spain to improve climate literacy in the future? Should other countries/regions in Spain adopt a similar concept to the one you present? What are some of the challenges of using the media as a dissemination format? Will you evaluate the impact of this dissemination to see if it works?
As the reviewer requests, we have added a final comment in the conclusions section about possible future steps, such as trying to experimentally measure the impact Weather Stories can have:
“Approaching climate change from a dissemination point of view and not from an informational one is a necessary step that mass media must take in order to succeed in making the audience comprehend the nature of such an existential issue as global warming. We would like the media in Spain and the rest of the world to adopt specific scientific communication formats such as Weather Stories in order to be able to take on the challenge of explaining climate change to a non-specialized public with guarantees. We also believe that it would be wise to try to measure the impact that Weather Stories has on the public through experimentation. Our wish for the future would be that the media would become a valuable resource for the educational system. By combining education and information, it would be possible to successfully face the challenge of understanding climate change”
The points you raise throughout the manuscript are excellent, but require more references to the literature in some parts. For example P1 L22-23 ("the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation", please cite some examples), P2 L34-43 (this paragraph requires more references to the literature on the lack of climate education in the general public, people still don't know how the greenhouse effect works, and that the media is the main source of public opinion information), P2 L57-58 ("widely debated within the academic literature", please provide examples of articles), P8 L245-255 (the jet stream concept requires citations to relevant literature), and P14 L361-362 ("as shown by different surveys around the world", please refer the reader to some examples).
References have been added in all of the parts of the article the reviewer suggests and we have deleted the remark referring “that the media is the main source of public opinion information” because the consumption of news in the media is experimenting a very important change, especially after the pandemic. In any case, it is important to highlight that La Voz de Galicia is published every day on paper, web and social networks (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram). In addition, our survey reveals that the analyzed population assures that the most consumed media is written and digital press and television and that the last time they were informed about climate change was through a journalist.
“During this time, the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation, while pointing out that the progressive increase of greenhouse gases may trigger a domino effect in the global climate system that would make it unstable and raise the Earth’s average temperature beyond the limits established by the Paris Agreement which aims to prevent the increase in the average global temperature of the planet from exceeding 2ºC compared to pre-industrial levels. ”
“Despite the climate urgency and the exponential increase of scientific evidence about its origin, behaviour and impact, we can still observe a severe lack of climate education in the public (Allianz Research, 2021)”
“The effect that a wider knowledge about climate science may provoke on an individual is widely debated within the academic literature and has both supporters and detractors (Howell and Brossard, 2021)”
“The inclination of 23.5 degrees in Earth’s rotation axis makes solar radiation to be intense in the equator and weak in the poles. To compensate for this energy imbalance, the planet has ocean and air currents that redistribute heat ”
“In the last few years, the degree of concern and climate awareness has increased in society, as shown by different surveys all around the world, from Europe to the United States (Goldberg 2020 et al) ”
Specific comments:
P1 L13: Suggest changing "knowledge" to "climate literacy" to clarify that you are not referring to scientific knowledge but to the knowledge of the general public. (Same in P4 L104).
The suggested changes have been made:
“As concerns about the climate crisis rise, climate literacy remains stagnant”
“This change of terminology seems to be aimed at raising the general public’s awareness about the causes and effects of the problem; however, it does not entail an increase in climate literacy”
P1 L16-17: Your characteristics allow you to take on what challenge - that of science communication? Please specify in the manuscript.
Yes, we referred to the challenge of explaining the complexity of climate science. We have now specified it in the text:
“….allow taking on the challenge of explaining the complexity of climate science”.
Introduction: You only introduce why it is important for the public to understand climate change in section 2. I think this needs a line or two in the Introduction, as it is an important point that frames the rest of your paper.
We agree. We have changed the following paragraph in the Introduction by adding a remark at the end explaining why it is important for the public to understand climate change :
A possible explanation for this deficit is that the climate change message is not being correctly transmitted by the media, which are the main source of public opinion information as our survey shows. As a result, the recipient the public is unable to accept it, which is a big problem because knowing the science and the impacts of climate change is the key to understanding how serious it is. (NOAA, 2009)
P1 L22: I suggest changing "harder" to "more catastrophic".
The suggested change has been made.
P1 L25: What are the limits set by the Paris Agreement? Please specify.
The limits, set in terms of temperature rise, are now specified:
“During this time, the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation, while pointing out that the progressive increase of greenhouse gases may trigger a domino effect in the global climate system that would make it unstable and raise the Earth’s average temperature beyond the limits established by the Paris Agreement which aims to prevent the increase in the average global temperature of the planet from exceeding 2ºC compared with pre-industrial levels (National Academy of Science, 2020)”
P1 L 25: Please explain very briefly what the "Hot Earth" hypothesis consists of in the manuscript.
“The ‘Hothouse Earth’ hypothesis, which establishes that if warming continues at the current rate it could produce a cascade of events that could increase the global average temperature above 3 degrees, appears to be a possible future as a result of a feedback process that would give rise to a previously unknown climate situation in human history (Steffen et al., 2018) (Xavier Fonseca, 2020b).”
P2 L32-33: This would be a good point to briefly introduce what the Jet Stream is.
We have now introduced the Jet Stream concept in the said paragraph:
“The supporters of this theory say that climate triggers a domino effect so that, when one of the tiles collapses, it may end up knocking down the others. These individual pieces may refer to unique ecosystems, such as the Amazon and the coral reefs, or to global climate regulation mechanisms, such as the thermohaline circulation (Caesar, L., McCarthy, G.D., Thornalley, D.J.R. et al., 2021: 4) and the Jet Stream, a high speed wind current in the upper troposphere that follows the separation between cold polar air from warm subtropical air in both hemispheres. Knowing these physical concepts is vital to understanding how the global climate system works and the threat that climate change poses”
P2 L46-47: Suggest changing "the generation" to "one of the generations".
The change has been made.
P3 L66: This hypothesis is not tested in your manuscript, please change the word, or provide a test for this hypothesis in your manuscript. I would suggest the latter since you already have a main hypothesis explored.
We have now changed the word hypothesis. We prefer to focus on the effect of the media on climate literacy and leave the impact on policies, which may come (or not) as a follow up, for further work.
“We believe that, following the provisions backed by NOAA and the United Nations, the scientific literacy process is vital for boosting ambitious policies that guarantee the climate system’s stability and, therefore, for preventing a cascade effect of events that make the average temperature rise above the safety limits. “
P3 L68-69: Do you have a reference for this that you can add in the manuscript? I find this point surprising since academia is a center of learning.
W have added another reference published by NOAA on the importance of climate literacy.
P3 L73-74: "The effect vanishes soon" is an excellent point. However, you do not argue that this is not the case for the media. Please address this point in the manuscript.
We have added the following remark to address the reviewer’s point:
“Education through the reading of a daily newspaper section as we propose here, resembles more the conventional method of study in scholar environments and may have a different impact, with a longer lasting imprint.”
P3 L80: I find the idea of “social experience” fascinating, but I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. Since it is an important point, please provide a clear explanation of what this is in the manuscript.
Please, see response to comment below
- P3 L80-82: by "everyday testing within the meteorological field" do you mean that this experience is backed up by constant progress within the field of meteorology. Please clarify/rephrase.
In this part of the article we explain that the content of the information can be checked every day against the weather forecast. The reader learns about meteorology and can put the learning into practice and compare the information with reality. This whole process is what we refer as “social experience”. So, the word "field" refers to a meteorological variable such as sea level pressure, wind, temperature, etc. We have changed “field” to "forecast", and “social experience” to “educational experience” to avoid confusion.
“Building on this idea, we argue that the scientific communication format presented in this article is actually inspired in an ‘educational experience’ created after a constant learning process with the added value provided by everyday testing against the meteorological forecast”
P4 L106-107: Is there anything you can cite in the manuscript to support the claim that the greenhouse effect is not well understood by the public? I find this surprising since it is a concept that is taught in school.
We cite a paper and also our own survey to support this idea. We have now added the sentence:
“Our survey reveals that half of the analyzed population does not recognize the greenhouse effect as the cause of the increase in global temperature.”
P4 L116-117: Please briefly explain in the manuscript the 3 crisis points facing journalism.
We have decided to remove the mentions to the economic and model concepts because they have nothing to do with the main topic of the article. The paragraph reads now as:
“This fact has been ascertained during the Covid-19 pandemic. Mass media were considered one of the essential activities, since information is deemed to have the power to save lives. However, journalism faces today a confidence-wise crises (Rodrigo-Alsina, M. & Cerqueira, L., 2019). Credibility is being threatened in post-truth times, a concept understood as the circumstances in which ‘objective facts have less influence on opinions and decisions than personal emotions and beliefs’ (Wihbey and Ward 2016). A study conducted in Spain on the dissemination of information during the Covid-19 pandemic revealed that most of the fake news were spread through social media and WhatsApp (89.1 %), whereas that figure was of 4 % in press media (Salaverría et al., 2020)”.
P4 L113-127: This paragraph is a repetition of many elements introduced in section 2. I suggest that it be revised to be more concise.
Based on the reviewer’s comment we have cut out some part of the paragraph but keeping the essence of what is meant in those lines about the role of the media during the pandemic:
“Mass media also have a double leading role within the current climate emergency context (Maxwell T. Boykoff and J. Timmons Roberts, 2007), as main information and education source. We further support the importance of the media with quantitative data from our survey, which reveals that a high percentage of the analyzed population mostly relies on the press and TV news to obtain information about climate change, rather than from the academic literature. For these different reasons, we contend that, in order to study the general impact of the climate literacy process, it is vital to take into account the role of the media, which has not been always considered (Rosales López, 2009).
Indeed, in order to send a message of urgency, the press is the most efficient medium. This fact has been ascertained during the Covid-19 pandemic. Mass media were considered one of the essential activities, since information is deemed to have the power to save lives. However, journalism faces today a confidence-wise crises (Rodrigo-Alsina, M. & Cerqueira, L., 2019). Credibility is being threatened in post-truth times, a concept understood as the circumstances in which ‘objective facts have less influence on opinions and decisions than personal emotions and beliefs’ (Wihbey and Ward 2016). A study conducted in Spain on the dissemination of information during the Covid-19 pandemic revealed that most of the fake news were spread through social media and WhatsApp (89.1 %), whereas that figure was of 4 % in press media (Salaverría et al., 2020)
P4 L120: Doesn't the percentage of fake news on social networks and Whatsapp also suggest a change in the source of information?
Indeed, but I think this question should be addressed in another article on the media crisis in more depth. In this part we just want to highlight the continuing importance of the traditional media, because Weather Stories is published in a newspaper.
P5 L135-137: For readers unfamiliar with the history of weather in Galicia, it would be useful to give an overview of the background of climate change in this region of Spain. For example, sea level rise, droughts, floods.... This context is very important to frame the survey results you mention below.
We have now added the following paragraph, following the reviewer’s suggestion:
“The quantitative study was conducted in the three universities based in Galicia is a region located in the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula. The average annual temperature in Galicia increased by 0.20 degrees per decade between 1961 and 2015. Between 1951 and 2017 there were nine episodes of drought. The absence of rain has a very important impact on this Spanish region because its economy and way of life depend on rainfall, which is usually very reliable. It is also the region of the entire Iberian Peninsula with the most kilometers of coastline and this makes it especially vulnerable to rising sea levels. (Xunta de Galicia, 2015)”
P5 L156: You report that "quite a lot" and "very much" are the most selected responses by survey participants. However, readers do not know what choices were offered to participants and cannot judge the impact of this response. More examples in section 5. See my main comment on the methodology section above. As an example of why this is important, when mentioning the various sources of climate change information noted by survey participants, were options such as "a friend," "family," and "social networks" ones that participants could also choose?
As mentioned earlier, a copy of the survey has been attached with the article as supplementary material where all the questions and answers can be seen. In any case, we note again that the survey information is not the main focus of this article. There are several other studies, as we reference in the paper, that point out that there is great concern about climate change but little knowledge on the subject.
P6 L169: "More than 40% believe", is this figure from the survey?
Yes, we have now specified it the text:
"More than 40% of the surveyed individuals believe",
P6 L184: I would say that the daily provision of information also constitutes reliability, important in building public confidence.
We have now added the suggested remark:
“Thus, by learning and contrasting day after day, this format helps establish a trust relationship between the medium and the reader. Finally, the daily provision of information additionally constitutes reliability, important to build public trust”
P7 L201: Where did the Filomena storm occur?
We have now added that Filomena affected Spain:
“A good example is the coverage of the storm Filomena that affected Spain in January 2021 (Xavier Fonseca, 2021a). The coverage started one week before most of Spain collapsed blanketed in snow, and continued days after with the explanation of the origin of this extreme cold event, introducing physical concepts such as the ‘Jet Stream’ to explain it, while framing it within climate change (Xavier Fonseca, 2021b)”
P7 L207: By "own personality" do you mean that it is a unique medium? Please rephrase the sentence.
We have now deleted this sentence to avoid confusion. We just meant that the graphics’ design is exclusive for Weather Stories and easily identifiable.
P7 L209: The historic perspective further frames broader concepts in a locally relevant context for the audience.
We have now added the suggested remark:
“The historic approach is the format’s hallmark. This helps readers to understand the relevance that climate has had in the evolution of life on Earth, and Earth itself, as well as to understand that this influence can sometimes be unexpected. Also, the historic perspective additionally frames broader concepts in a locally relevant context for the public”
P7 L217: "it can also be linked to a war such as the one in Syria", this requires further explanation in the manuscript.
We have now added some explanation on Syria:
“Climate change is not only about hurricanes in the East Coast of the United States, heat waves in Europe and droughts in Africa, it can also be linked to a war like Syria’s due to the drought that occurred between 2017 and 2010 causing a mass migration of farming families to urban centers (Kelley et al., 2015) (Müller et al., 2016).”
P8 L235-243: To understand this paragraph readers need more information about Weather Stories, such as who contributes to it, how often issues are published, what is the range of topics. This could be introduced in more detail in the introduction section.
We provide now extra information on Weather Stories at the end of the Introduction section, as per the reviewer’s request:
“Weather stories are published every day in the newspaper La Voz de Galicia on the page that contains meteorological and maritime information. The format focuses on informing the public about the weather in Galicia and explaining from a scientific point of view the meteorological events that affect the community, but also topics related to the history of the climate and climate change. The journalist from La Voz de Galicia Xavier Fonseca is the creator and main contributor of this format and works with the Nonlinear Physics Group at the Physics Faculty of the University of Santiago de Compostela, universities and research centers in Galicia, Spain and the rest of the world to produce information every day. This communication format has specific characteristics that make it possible to face the challenge of communicating the science of climate change to a non-specialist audience. These characteristics are daily section, scientific dissemination, historic perspective and specialization. Our hypothesis is that it can be used as a model to bridge the existing gap between an increasing awareness of climate issues and the apparently stagnant knowledge on these natural phenomena. We illustrate our analysis with a particular example: how this communication format has brought up the dissemination of the Jet Stream. “
P8 L260: Suggests changing "air navigation" to "air circulation".
Here we talk about how airplanes take advantage of the jet stream to save time and fuel. The proper term in this context is air navigation.
P8 L262: The various viewpoints mentioned here are important but have not been introduced before. Please introduce this point earlier in the manuscript. Should it also be an additional element of the model introduced in section 6?
We have now added the different viewpoints of the Weather Stories format (daily section, scientific dissemination, historic perspective and specialization) in both the abstract and the introduction.
P9: Suggest moving sections 7.2 and 7.3 as subsections of 7.1, as they fit into the theme of "a stream with a lot of history".
Following the reviewer’s suggestion, we have now unified sections 7.1, 7.2 and 7.3 into one section about historic perspective on the Jet Stream.
Section 7: These narratives are very interesting, but are presented somewhat arbitrarily. Please mention explicitly how they relate to the model elements introduced in section 6 (see the main comments section above). You could also report the dissemination/publication dates of each story, with links to these publications so that readers can read them if they are interested.
Section 7 serves as a practical example of the Weather Stories science communication model. The dissemination of this physical concept brings together several points of the model such as historical perspective, science outreach, and specialization. Our opinion is that there is nothing arbitrary about this part. As for the links, in the article there are references to the articles published about the jet stream in La Voz de Galicia and in the bibliography as well.
P14 L365: I suggest changing "often invisible" to "often invisible to the untrained eye" to emphasize that it is invisible if the person does not know what to look for.
The suggested change has been made:
“The climate crisis, given its characteristics: global, slow and often invisible to the untrained eye, represents a challenge for the homo sapiens’ brain ability”
P14 L381: "Belenguer, 2003" should be introduced earlier in the manuscript if it is referred to in the conclusions.
We have now included this reference at the beginning of section 6:5:
“This innovative collaboration between physicists and scientific journalists working together in the same research group makes it possible for the section’s content to have all warranties of a thorough information and to respond to a demand by the scientific community, which requires more specialised communicators and a higher prominence in public areas to debate about the environmental issue (Besley and Nisbet 2013, Belenguer, 2003).“
Technical corrections:
P1 L13: "To advance learning" (without "in").
P2 L63: The citation is not closed.
P7 L215: "to assimilate" (without "to").
P12 L345:"on the planet".
All the suggested corrections have been made .Thank you!
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AC3: 'Reply on AC1', Xavier Fonseca, 17 May 2022
Dear authors,
Many thanks for thoroughly responding to my previous comments. Below are additional comments which I hope will help inform your second round of revisions.Thank you very much again for taking the time to review the article and for your positive comments. Please, find below the responses to each of your remarks :
Please provide a statement regarding ethics in your manuscript. What ethical clearance did your survey receive? How did the participants give their informed consent to take part in the survey?
Ethics approval was not sought for this research. Ethics approval in Spanish institutions is only necessary when carrying out medical research or research with animals or human samples. As for the kind of survey used in this project, neither the Spanish Research Agency (AEI), nor the University where this project was based (University of Santiago de Compostela) require ethics approval. According to Spanish science standards, the use of this survey is completely valid. In order to meet general ethics standards in sociological research, we have been thoroughly careful in preserving anonymity when using the results of this survey. In addition, the survey avoided collecting any sensitive information that was not directly connected to the objectives of this research and focused on general visions about climate change information. Information has been kept in an encrypted database, only accessible to the researcher.
L102: Please give examples of audiovisual pieces you are referring to in the text.
Following the reviewer’s suggestion we have now added some movie titles that have been the focus of research analyzing climate literacy
“It is true that there exist other informal scopes that have been investigated such as, for example, the impact that films and documentaries about global warming have on society. In this sense, some conclusions are that the audience’s awareness increases after watching one of those audiovisual pieces, such as The Day after Tomorrow (2005), An Inconvenient Truth (2006) or The Age of Stupid (2009); however, the effect vanishes soon” (Sakellari, 2014).
L113-115: This sentence is still unclear, please rewrite. The formulation you used in your answer to my comments helped me understand what you meant and could be used in the paper with minor edits: “The reader learns about meteorology and can put the learning into practice and compare the information with reality.”
As per the reviewer’s suggestion, we have now included the sentence from the previous responses and changed the paragraph as follows:
“Building on this idea, we argue that the scientific communication format presented in this article is actually inspired in an ‘educational experience’ created after a constant process of knowledge acquisition in which the reader learns about meteorology and can put the learning into practice and compare the information with reality, such as for example by checking against the weather forecast. In this sense, the characteristics of the dissemination format described and analyzed in this article can be considered rather unique and different from any other example taken from Spanish or international media. It would be a model designed to educate, rather than to raise awareness”.
L106-108, L144-146 & L155-158: The survey methodology should be introduced before these survey results are mentioned.
We fully agree with the reviewer in that the survey results should not be mentioned before the survey is actually introduced. We have now deleted those mentions to the survey results in the introductory sections.
The methodology needs to be re-written. E.g. L181-182 are now out of place and don’t follow the previous sentence.
There was a mismatch between sentences in that paragraph. We have now rewritten the paragraph to correct the problem:
“In order to assess the scarce scientific information available to the public on climate change as well as the importance of mass media, we will use the data gathered in a survey on climate change knowledge carried out in Galicia, a region located in the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula. The average annual temperature there increased by 0.20 degrees per decade between 1961 and 2015. Between 1951 and 2017 there were nine episodes of drought. The absence of rain has a very important impact on this Spanish region because its economy and way of life depend on rainfall, which is usually very reliable. It is also the region of the entire Iberian Peninsula with the most kilometers of coastline and this makes it especially vulnerable to rising sea levels (Xunta de Galicia, 2015).
The quantitative study was conducted during the 2018-2019 academic year in the three universities based in Galicia: University of Vigo (UVigo), University of Santiago de Compostela (USC) and University of A Coruña (UDC). The participants in the survey were 600 students from different years and from both science and humanities fields: Journalism, Sociology, Biology, Political Science, Mathematics, Industrial Engineering, Aeronautical Engineering, Economics and Law. For the statistical analysis, we used the Wilcoxon test and the Kruskal-Wallis test, to identify the factors that have a significant influence on their knowledge on climate change.”
L275: 2017 and 2010 need to be swapped around.
The suggested change has been made.
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AC3: 'Reply on AC1', Xavier Fonseca, 17 May 2022
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Xavier Fonseca, 06 Apr 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on gc-2021-34', Stephanie Zihms, 25 Feb 2022
You present a very interesting and important topic and I enjoyed learning about the Weather Stories format used in Spain. This research is well suited for the remit of the journal.
However, there are couple of things I would like you to address before this manuscript can be accepted for publication.
Firstly, I am a little confused about the link of the survey – I assume this was done to show a lack of climate education in the general public/population by using 600 students as a proxy? The general public doesn’t exist – it is made up of a whole range of people and it would be beneficial if you would set boundaries around who you want to target with the Weather Stories approach. When using a group like this to establish a baseline of understanding it would be good to use a follow-up survey to show changes in their understanding due to the introduction of the Weather Stories approach. This feels incomplete.
Ethics:
I see no reference to the survey having gained ethical approval from any of the institutions. Ensure you provide ethical approval information e.g., approving committee, project number linked to the approval. If approval wasn’t sought before the study was conducted, then the survey results cannot be used in this manuscript and should be removed. If approval has been sought prior to conducting the survey, please provide the information.
Missing references
Line 22/23 Please back this claim with relevant references
Line 56/57 Please back this claim with relevant references
Line 30 Possible to add reference to COP 26 here
Line 79 Consider adding more references to back this point e.g. Cooper 2011 https://doi.org/10.1525/bio.2011.61.3.8 , Milér and Sládek 2011
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.sbspro.2011.02.021
Line 175 add reference or link back to results that show this
Line 245 to 255 add references to back up claims, facts made in this section of the paper, even if known these statements have to be back with a reference
Line 256 is it possible to link to an archive for the Weather stories linked to Jet Stream coverage or information how these could be accessed – website etc
General population / General public
Please revisit the paper and explain who you mean by general population and why you considered 600 university students to be presentative? Reference to population etc should be considered with similar caution.
Analysis / Results
I am not sure what the analysis of this paper is beyond the survey to show the climate understanding of 600 students and the examples given to show the Jet Stream example of Weather Stories. What is proposed we do going forward? Should researchers adapt this approach, if so how? Considering there is no analysis or follow-up data included regarding the students I am not sure how the claim that this format could be successful can be made. For now this study seems incomplete.
Final comment
I hope you are able to work on this approach and make the required amendments, this is an important topic and the Weather Stories approach is very interesting.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Xavier Fonseca, 06 Apr 2022
Responses to reviewer 2 (Stephanie Zihms)
Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. We have carefully addressed all of your suggestions and believe they will help improve the article significantly. Below, please find the point-by-point responses to each of your comments.
You present a very interesting and important topic and I enjoyed learning about the Weather Stories format used in Spain. This research is well suited for the remit of the journal.
However, there are couple of things I would like you to address before this manuscript can be accepted for publication.
Firstly, I am a little confused about the link of the survey - I assume this was done to show a lack of climate education in the general public/population by using 600 students as a proxy? The general public doesn't exist - it is made up of a whole range of people and it would be beneficial if you would set boundaries around who you want to target with the Weather Stories approach. When using a group like this to establish a baseline of understanding it would be good to use a follow-up survey to show changes in their understanding due to the introduction of the Weather Stories approach. This feels incomplete.
Thank you for your comment. We would like to point out that the main point of the article is not to present the survey but a model of scientific communication on climate change that has very specific characteristics and is published every day in a newspaper. When we started with the article, we thought it would be a good idea to conduct a survey on knowledge and climate change in Galicia, which is where Weather Stories is published. We made a questionnaire on physical issues related to global warming and on sources of information. The chosen audience was university students, as explained in the methodology section, because we believe that this is an interesting sector of the population as they have access to many sources of information and given that, because of their age, will be those experiencing the consequences of climate change in their entire adult life. The survey data are very similar to many other studies that have been carried out in other countries in Europe and the United States. Results show that the population is very concerned, but literacy is very low. One fact that our survey highlights and that gives value to the work done is that young university students are mainly informed through television and digital and written media. These figures serve to support the need for communication formats such as Weather Stories, but the main objective of this research is not so much to analyze the problem of climate literacy as to propose a model to try to solve this problem.
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“In the last five years, the science discourse on climate change has become more catastrophic . During this time, the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation, while pointing out that the progressive increase of greenhouse gases may trigger a domino effect in the global climate system that would make it unstable and raise the Earth’s average temperature beyond the limits established by the Paris Agreement which aims to prevent the increase in the average global temperature of the planet from exceeding 2ºC compared with pre-industrial level (National Academy of Science, 2020) (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 2022)”
Line 56/57 Please back this claim with relevant references
“The effect that a wider knowledge about climate science may provoke on an individual is widely debated within the academic literature and has both supporters and detractors (Emily L. Howell, 2021)”.
Line 30. Possible to add reference to COP 26
We have now added the suggested reference:
“Since then, concepts such as ‘point of no return’ and ‘tipping point’ have been increasingly used. So much so that the Secretary-General of the United Nations, António Guterres, assured during the COP25 held in Madrid in 2019 that ‘the point of no return is no longer over the horizon. It is in sight and hurtling toward us’ (UN News, 2019). Guterres added in Cop26 in Glasgow ‘we are digging our own grave’ (UN News, 2021). The supporters of this theory say that climate triggers a domino effect so that, when one of the tiles collapses, it may end up knocking down the others”
Line 79. Consider adding more references to back this point e.g. Cooper 2011 https://doi.org/10.1525/bio.2011.61.3.8 , Milér and Sládek 2011https://doi.org/10.1016/j.sbspro.2011.02.021
We have now added the suggested references, as per the reviewer’s request.
“Current discussions on the effect of scientific literacy highlight the need to design an educational strategy supported by ‘a social experience’ (Gaudiano and Meira, 2009) (Cooper, Caren, 2011) (Miléř and Sládek, 2011). Building on this idea, we argue that the scientific communication format presented in this article is actually inspired in a ‘experience’ created after a constant learning process with the added value provided by everyday testing within the meteorology forecast. In this sense, the characteristics of the dissemination format described and analyzed in this article can be considered rather unique and different from any other example taken from Spanish or international media. It would be a model designed to educate, rather than to raise awareness”
is it possible to link to an archive for the Weather stories linked to Jet Stream coverage or information how these could be accessed - website etc
In the article, all all the articles published in Weather Stories about the jet stream and also in the bibliography are referenced and a link is included for easy access.
Please revisit the paper and explain who you mean by general population and why you considered 600 university students to be presentative? Reference to population etc should be considered with similar caution.
We agree with the reviewer. The term "general" has been changed to "specific" and information on the type of the target audience has been added in the methodology section.
“This population group is interesting because they are young, educated people who use several sources of information and who belong to one of the generations that will mostly suffer from the consequences of the increase in global temperature”
I see no reference to the survey having gained ethical approval from any of the institutions. Ensure you provide ethical approval information e.g., approving committee, project number linked to the approval. If approval wasn't sought before the study was conducted, then the survey results cannot be used in this manuscript and should be removed. If approval has been sought prior to conducting the survey, please provide the information.
Ethics approval was not sought for this research. Ethics approval in Spanish institutions is only necessary when carrying out medical research or research with animals or human samples. As for the kind of survey used in this project, neither the Spanish Research Agency (AEI), nor the University where this project was based (University of Santiago de Compostela) require ethics approval. According to Spanish science standards, the use of this survey is completely valid. In order to meet general ethics standards in sociological research, we have been thoroughly careful in preserving anonymity when using the results of this survey. In addition, the survey avoided collecting any sensitive information that was not directly connected to the objectives of this research and focused on general visions about climate change information. Information has been kept in an encrypted database, only accessible to the researcher.
I am not sure what the analysis of this paper is beyond the survey to show the climate understanding of 600 students and the examples given to show the Jet Stream example of Weather Stories. What is proposed we do going forward? Should researchers adapt this approach, if so how? Considering there is no analysis or follow-up data included regarding the students I am not sure how the claim that this format could be successful can be made. For now this study seems incomplete.
The aim of this article is to present a model of scientific communication on climate change that exists in a Spanish newspaper and that has some specific characteristics. Our hypothesis is that this format can be useful to promote a better understanding of the complexity of the climate crisis mostly by educating on climate science.
Many physical concepts in atmospheric science are not easily understandable by a public lacking proper education on the subject. As we show in our survey, even university students in science degrees show a lack of knowledge on this matter, even on relatively simple concepts such as the greenhouse effect. We claim that without a basic education on how climate works, one cannot have a founded opinion on climate change, and particularly on the means to avoid it. In the paper, we address how to deliver a complex physical concept such as the jet stream and its role on climate to the general public, with a scientific communication format that addresses all the important points related to this climate regulation mechanism. Thus, the purpose of this article is to bring out the importance of climate literacy and present an example on how we tackle this issue. We do not claim that it will be a success, but we do show that the newspaper section of Weather Stories is very popular on a regular basis and is likely having an impact on the readers’ climate education. In the future we will address the possibility of trying to experimentally measure the effect it may have on a sector of the population.
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AC4: 'Reply on AC2', Xavier Fonseca, 17 May 2022
Responses to reviewer 3 (Denise Balmer)
Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. Please find below the point-by-point responses to your comments:
Lie 25-32 contains a very long sentence which really needs a break
Indeed. We have broken the long sentence into two smaller ones.
“During this time, the scientific community has published several articles highlighting the urgency of the current situation (National Academy of Science, 2020), while pointing out that the progressive increase of greenhouse gases may trigger a domino effect in the global climate system that would make it unstable. The consequence would be a raising of the Earth’s average temperature beyond the limits established by the Paris Agreement, which aims to prevent the increase in the average global temperature of the planet from exceeding 2ºC compared with pre-industrial levels”
Line 38 phrase is repeated
The repeated phrase has been deleted.
Line 47 double full stops
Corrected. Thank you
Line 175 an extra ‘i’ needs removing.
See response below
Line 176 no need for ‘is’
See response below
Line 181 part of the sentence appears to be mssing
See response below
Line 181 analyse (d)
There were several grammatical issues in the paragraph in the Methodology section the reviewer is referring to in the last four comments. We have now rewritten it as follows:
“In order to assess the scarce scientific information available to the public on climate change as well as the importance of mass media, we will use the data gathered in a survey on climate change knowledge carried out in Galicia, a region located in the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula. The average annual temperature there increased by 0.20 degrees per decade between 1961 and 2015. Between 1951 and 2017 there were nine episodes of drought. The absence of rain has a very important impact on this Spanish region because its economy and way of life depend on rainfall, which is usually very reliable. It is also the region of the entire Iberian Peninsula with the most kilometers of coastline and this makes it especially vulnerable to rising sea levels (Xunta de Galicia, 2015).
The quantitative study was conducted during the 2018-2019 academic year in the three universities based in Galicia: University of Vigo (UVigo), University of Santiago de Compostela (USC) and University of A Coruña (UDC). The participants in the survey were 600 students from different years and from both science and humanities fields: Journalism, Sociology, Biology, Political Science, Mathematics, Industrial Engineering, Aeronautical Engineering, Economics and Law. For the statistical analysis, we used the Wilcoxon test and the Kruskal-Wallis test, to identify the factors that have a significant influence on their knowledge on climate change.”
Line 230 ‘an’ experience
Corrected
Line 236 it allows (opportunities?)
The suggested change has been made.
Line 276 I ?
The typo has been corrected
Line 470….so that the public can piece together each part of the complex puzzle that forms the Earth’s climate….
The suggested change has been made. Thank you!
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AC4: 'Reply on AC2', Xavier Fonseca, 17 May 2022
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Xavier Fonseca, 06 Apr 2022
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AC5: 'Comment on gc-2021-34', Xavier Fonseca, 08 Jun 2022
I upload the edited version in which I have included the information regarding the ethics statement in the methodology section
Methodology
In order to assess the scarce scientific information available to the public on climate change as well as the importance of mass media, we will use the data gathered in a survey on climate change knowledge carried out in Galicia, a region located in the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula. The average annual temperature there increased by 0.20 degrees per decade between 1961 and 2015. Between 1951 and 2017 there were nine episodes of drought. The absence of rain has a very important impact on this Spanish region because its economy and way of life depend on rainfall, which is usually very reliable. It is also the region of the entire Iberian Peninsula with the most kilometers of coastline and this makes it especially vulnerable to rising sea levels (Xunta de Galicia, 2015).
The quantitative study was conducted during the 2018-2019 academic year in the three universities based in Galicia: University of Vigo (UVigo), University of Santiago de Compostela (USC) and University of A Coruña (UDC). The participants in the survey were 600 students from different years and from both science and humanities fields: Journalism, Sociology, Biology, Political Science, Mathematics, Industrial Engineering, Aeronautical Engineering, Economics and Law. For the statistical analysis, we used the Wilcoxon test and the Kruskal-Wallis test, to identify the factors that have a significant influence on their knowledge on climate change. Ethics approval was not sought for this research. Ethics approval in Spanish institutions is only necessary when carrying out medical research or research with animals or human samples. As for the kind of survey used in this project, neither the Spanish Research Agency (AEI), nor the University where this project was based (University of Santiago de Compostela) require ethics approval. According to Spanish science standards, the use of this survey is completely valid. In order to meet general ethics standards in sociological research, we have been thoroughly careful in preserving anonymity when using the results of this survey. In addition, the survey avoided collecting any sensitive information that was not directly connected to the objectives of this research and focused on general visions about climate change information.